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issues. i spoke with one republican aide that said nancy pelosi would have to add a lot of votes. a bill could come over from the senate and if there is a problem amongst house republicans or enough of them object, john boehner could amend it and send it back to the senate. from the house. that would put it in delay. >> they have all day tomorrow to work it out. one last thing i've been told that some could make the sale to members at 12:01 a.m. that any deal that comes over from the senate would be voting -- not voting for a tax hike, would be voting to cut taxes because then we're over the cliff and everything would expire. so interesting optics. i think it should be really known by folks watching tonight just because something is going to come out of the senate late tonight, early tomorrow morning, there's no guarantee it has a clear way forward. it's without some sort of drama at the very end. >> we thank them for their updates, as well, at 7:10 here on the east coast. the drama continues. we should also make one more quick note about what's going on with hillary clinton because a st
to be leader nancy pelosi because she may have to deliver some democratic votes to get something done. >> reporter: absolutely. pelosi and mcconnell are really going to sort of step into the center stage at this point in time. they are going to be crucial as well as, of course, house speaker john boehner, but really there's going to be a lot of focus right now on the senate because, as you remember, house speaker john boehner tried to get his own bill passed through the house. that didn't happen. he didn't have enough votes, so essentially everything shifts right now to the senate. so harry reid, mitch mcconnell, nancy please elosi on the house to say here are the number of democrats i could get if you offer a compromise package. but this is really a tough situation because there's so little time left and we've already seen the markets impacted by this. so if we do go over the cliff, if you look at the polls, most americans saying republicans will bear the brunt. they will blame republicans, but the bottom line is the president will get a lot of blame as well because this is going to
would give some advice to speaker boehner, he needs to talk to nancy pelosi. when nancy pelosi was speaker, she found a way even with maximum republican opposition to bring her diverse caucus. that is a caucus with diverse views together to get things done like the affordable care act. like dodd frank. she got it done. >> that's great advice, and we hope he listens. >> i hope so. >> thank you so much, my friend. >> my pleasure. >>> let's turn to ryan grim. mr. grim, the jobless are really the only segment of the population who get an immediate hit if we go over the fiscal cliff. doesn't this strike even what appears to be heartless politicians that the people most vulnerable are working class and working poor and middle class people who will get stiffed by this? >> yeah, the jobless have been getting pushed around by congress for years now, you know, ever since the economic crisis. and they implemented some extended emergency benefits they've been getting told that if they give them unemployment it will make them lazy and they will not look for jobs. states have insisted they d
there in the house of representatives? and specifically would any speaker, whether it's john boehner, nancy pelosi or anybody else, allow a bill to pass like this, especially one that violates four republican party doctrine that would raise taxes, would they allow it to -- and the answer to that is probably not. democrats have alleged for week now what john bain ser doing is waiting until the gavel is safely in his hands for the next congress. that happens on january 3rd, when they formally elect a speaker. that's one theory, but probably the thing that make the most sense is the fact that then it becomes a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans, instead of allowing them to rise for 1% or 2%. that is something logically the republicans would probably or more likely go along with, though at this point who knows where we'll end up with on this thing. january 3rd is the new congress. in the days after that, that's the inertia it scenario. >> gentlemen, thanks so that. i appreciate it. >>> we want to bring in today's panel s perry bacon, democratic strategy margie omero, and chip saltzmann. i want to
this out, you know that john boehner and nancy pelosi and the wimps in the chambers are trying to figure it out. the right combination of the income threshold for tax increases with entitlement cuts, we haven't found it. the theory that republicans only want to pass something with the majority, that worked for haster when he was speaker. it's hard to see what kind of tax increase will get a majority of republicans and bring along enough democrats. boehner couldn't pass a million dollar tax increase. why do we think he can get something out of the house if they lower it to 400,000 or 500,000. we are skeptical that they can come together with the solution in the next five or six days. >> marty, we spent a lot of time talking about the house. what is mitch mcconnell thinking in the senate? >> he is a fascinating part of this. first of all, he is probably going to vote against any deal that raises taxes. whether he actively whips against it or lets it go, there is a number of senate republicans who seem open to upper income tax increases. some of the new england moderates, scott brown and su
of the democrats were going to join. >> that's an unreasonable standard. >> he's not negotiating with nancy pelosi. he's negotiating with the president of the united states trying to work this deal out and certainly it's become a discussion with nancy pelosi and it's not, it's a discussion with the president of the united states in term of trying to work this through and where does he have to turn? he has to turn back to the principles in this negotiation and that's what he's done. >> but i believe he could have passed his plan b if he hadn't gone with the $20 million cutoff and he'd moved toward the center and that had been under discussion with a $400,000 cut off or a $500,000 cut off for the tax cuts to go into effect and the tax increases above that figure to go into effect and he didn't try to go into the center and he locked himself into an impossible situation where he couldn't get 218 votes in his own caucus and that was a failure of leadership. >> martin frost, david winston, ten seconds. you have ten seconds to respond. >> i'm sorry, but you're asking him to take the democratic position
of that meeting. reid said that he found the meeting to be constructive as well as did nancy pelosi. speaker boehner seemed to have a slightly different take, basically saying, look, we've already passed legislation in the house to deal with the sequester, to deal with some of these issues so why not revisit what was passed in the house? but the bottom line is the words that are coming out of this meeting, constructive, optimistic. there seems to be a little bit of movement. you always hesitate to say that because, of course, these talks could become derailed at any minute, but president obama set to address the press and the nation hopefully to give us a little bit of a better sense of how that meeting wrapped up. >> kristin, how do we square the sense of optimism and everyone saying that the talks were constructive when they're still stuck on the same points? if this hasn't moved on from $250,000 a year? >> reporter: correct. it's a very good point, and so the question is what can leader reid do, mitch mcconnell do within the next 24 hours to basically put together a compromise package? i
that year, harry reid and nancy pelosi gave george bush a stimulus. what happened was two things, al. first of all, barack obama got reelected. and for a variety of reasons, the republicans never game barack obama the kind of cooperation we gave george bush. of course you should disagree. but then in the end, you try to work things out. when george bush came to harry reid, we worked with him to go and to come to an agreement. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, said my number one agenda item is to defeat barack obama. and then in 2010, people were elected who don't believe in govern nans. who don't understand reality. it's not like we've had it forever. we didn't have it before the partisanship and there was some people so offended by the notion that barack obama could win for a variety of reasons, that they decided to delegitize it. i think you're going to see a gradual relinquishment of this kind of obstructionist death grip they have on the party. >> plet me ask you, you're leaving washington after serving so long and so well. what will you miss about washington? and what will you no
conservative conference that may not coming to to vote on something, even if nancy pelosi can corral the democrats, they need to pick off republicans. we don't know if any of them would vote for something like this. john boehner is ready to strike a deal. i'm not sure many others are. in the senate we have seen a number of conservative republicans saying they would vote. >> 20 republican votes? >> at this point it's very hard to say. i think john boehner would probably be trying to go in that direction if he could. we haven't seen enough house republicans come out yet and say they would support tax increases. if you have tom coal who broke with his party leadership and the party ranks about three weeks ago or so. we haven't seen enough say they would. i don't know that that's the right deal for that to try to strike. >> one of the strategies that republicans could very well allow us to go off the fiscal cliff. a few weeks into january they decide to take the vote on lowering taxes. lowering the race so they can say you know what, we voted to lower taxes. >> that's something that has
winners and losers. i think no winners kristal disagrees. >> i have a few. one is nancy pelosi because compared to john boehner i would say she looks like the greatest speaker of the house of all time. not un, surprisingly, mitt romney, because even though i'm sure he would rather be president, at least he doesn't deal with the mess himself. next on my list, rich people. we don't know what the deal looks like but you can bet they're on top in some way. they always do. and finally, toure, speak for yourself. i feel like a winner because as much as it is lame at work today, i would rather be here than in congress where i was trying to be so there you go. >> that's one way of spinning it. >> it's a -- i'm going to just kind of duck the question here. i don't want to get in to the winners and losers thing but a comment because i'm trying to piece it together over the last few days and months and i'm honestly and we'll see the final count tour contours of this an first reaction is what was the last year and a half all about? it looked like a pivot point in the presidency at the end of the
, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators reid and mcconnell. he urged them to extend jobless benefits. we can deal with cuts to defense and domestic programs later. but let's take care of the middle and working class right now. give them assurance right now. joining me is congressman chief ellison. he's co-chair of the progressive caucus and melissa harris perry, host of the melissa harris perry show here on msnbc. thank you both for coming on the show. >> thank you, al. >> congressman, let me go to you first, this deal comes down to taxing the rich. how can they not realize this is what the country wants? >> i don't think that the republican leadership cares what the country wants. i think they care about what their biggest donors want and their big donors want to reorganize america so that -- because they believe that the rich don't have enough money and the poor have too much. so what we're hearing here is an expression of an et you logical idea that we need american society to be cost competitive with places like china. that means giving rich people even more money. and we're not
to deliver his own votes but isn't particularly interested in working with nancy pelosi to get moderate democrats onboard. again, we are talking about very symbolic things. i think john boehner is far more interested in preserving his speakership, waiting until we go over the cliff and everyone can blame each other all the way through. it would be better for everyone if we didn't have discussions about social insurance and/or entitlements at gunpoint with two days to >> that's the views from -- a very -- very strong conservative voice. >> that's giving the president a lot of credit here. the president wants a deal, doesn't want to go into the second term, january with the fiscal cliff looming and dealing with the cpi or, you know, raising the medicare eligibility. doesn't want the discussions to cloud up his other agenda, rest of his agenda, things like immigration. gun control if that does survive into the new year. so -- right now looking at some of the things that have been floated -- that -- that harvard from reported basically that's the president getting stimulus aspects of it. th
rapidly move to the solution to the situation. >> nancy pelosi tried to do that and the signature is not there. chuck hegel was a colleague of yours. are you surprised about the criticism he received from the left and the right being the possible nominee for president obama in the obama administration in the second term? >> hegel used on foreign policy, but he hasn't received a lot of criticism. how much of that is justified? i can't tell you. >> senator from vermont, we thank you for joining us the day after christmas. >> joining us to talk big picture and the president's second term cabinet, nbc editor mark murray was the december employee of the month. congratulations. >> excuse me. you heard from senator sanders saying the lack of urgency hasn't been a problem, but if you look at it for all intents and purposes, boehner removed himself from these discussions. harry reid, president obama, and a little bit of mitch mcconnell. what is possible of making a deal? >> the ball seems to be in mitch mcconnell's court. does he filibuster anything that harry reid ends up making with pres
boehner said. wisest words of anyone in the house of representatives handing the gavel to nancy pelosi to be speaker of the house after republicans lost that 2006 election. he said, my party forgot that powers to be used for the good of the people and not for power's sake. that's what they have to remember. now, as far as that fiscal cliff, they can withhold the tax schedule changes. they're able like in defense, when you have a defense cut or a defense cut like that, it takes place over three to four years. it doesn't all happen this figs year. what we want is a bunny slope not a cliff so the damage is not great as long as we are able to take the short-term deal that david spoke about. what everyone is looking for, consumer and business investor is certainty. congress generates the political will with the president to address our problem. both in the grand scheme so we get $4 trillion in debt reduction over a year and second in the short term and don't have a gross domestic product grow at zee ro over the year. >> when you think about this entire issue, there is the gop caucus and the
, for the house to pass the senate bill is quickest. you can't do it because you have all the democrats and nancy pelosi can whip her caucus, she maas lie one or two, and then you need about 30 republicans, but boehner -- >> arguing the senate bill is more partisbipartisan. >> it means only 2% of people would pay the 39% tax rate on everything above 250, right? but you reason he won't even try to pass that bill, is because he doesn't want the optics with the bill being passed with mostly democrats. bainers wants it a majority of the majorities, that that will be mostly republicans passing it. that's impossible, because republicans, you can't even get 10 or 20 of them to agree on anything they think is a tax hike. so you have a stalemate of boehner's over design. >>> ryan, to you, please responds to what joann said. a year ago, did you think -- yeah, we knew this was going to happen, did you think it would be this situation just days before the new years? if so are we going to have another fiscal cliff or a bunch that come to fruition here where we never see really a solution? >> well, it was very
way and it did not work, look, nancy pelosi, how do we get something through the house? >> talk about the reid/mcconnell special relationship. they were the two that cobbled together deals. 2011 is a great example. will they have a three-peat here? >> again i'm not bullish on this. i think robert might be a little more than i am. i think it would require a lot of courage on mcconned to put something through that democrats like and to impress upon john boehner to get this to the floor of the house i think could put -- on the bright side it could put him in a heroic position. >> very quickly. >> mcconnell is in a tricky position. >> he is looking a the 2014. thank you both so much. >> thank you. >>> >>> today's tweet of the day is about the milk cliff. glen johnson tweets amid talk of milk going up to $7 a dplon, with no deal, we'll all just start drinking gas then. [ male announcer ] with over 50 delicious choices of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant >>> the uncertainty caps off a huge year in politics.
conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. i just have to repeat. you know, outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern, over and over again. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and needs to stop. >> i just have to repea
their chosen leader, this time nancy pelosi. it's usually pro forma, but this time it has a real weight to it, because one of the reasons we're in this situation right now is because we're waiting for john boehner to be reelected to speaker of the house before they make a move, because only if 16 or 17 republicans don't vote for the guy, he could lose. they just want to wait. >> that's, i think, a point we've all been missing here is that after plan b's gone down, there seems to be some thinking, especially in boehner land, that we don't want our fingerprints on anything that could lead to some sort of conservative ensue su sure. >> it would be very embarra embarrassing. republicans voting for someone else or abstaining, they would have to probably shut the whole house down, have a whole meeting, drum up the votes. it would be very embarrassing and i think you're also seeing it on the senate side, mitch mcconnell is thinking, senate minority leader, if john boehner doesn't want his fingerprints on something, why do i want my fingerprints on it, i'm up for reelection in 2014. >> the amazing su
, the house -- >> not enough? >> are there any? >> well, the house democratic leader nancy pelosi will sign off on a final deal. >> pelosi, okay. >> you can agree that she's not around this table right now, but if the men are reporting major progress, which senate republicans say they had overnight, i think you'll take that. but to pick up on eamon's point what all this means -- >> so, none. >> -- it really pollutes the first 100 days for president obama. the flip side to what joe said earlier when he was calling in from someplace sunny when he said that none of this made major progress. what this means is there's this huge overhang into next year when president obama outlined yesterday on "meet the press" for david gregory his top five priorities for 2013. this makes it much harder, makes that much harder to do something on guns, to do something on immigration, to do real tax reform, to do infrastructure spending. now he has to deal with all the coming calamities, the new cliffs that are going to set up, even if there is some sort of a deal tonight. >> yeah, and don't forget, guys, we've a
they voted against it because they were mad at a speech nancy pelosi gave and they were ridiculed in that. and we had john mccain and his ambivalence on the floor. and then we saw mitch mcconnell coming up saying, yes, mr. president, you have been bashing us for weeks, let's vote on those tax rates. mitch mcconnell said let's do that and we'll leave the sequester aside. we'll let it kick into place. we'll tackle that whenever we get back here to washington after the inauguration and the state of the union and all that fun stuff. so that's where we stand right now. that does remain the last sticking point. >> luke, jump in here. what do you have to add that mike has already told us. >> well, mike viqueira is 12, 13 years of experience on capitol hill, so there's not much more to add after that. what i will say is i don't think that we can dismiss a lot of the anger on the republican side at the president's remarks today. i have gotten a ton of e-mails from republican aides saying the president is holding the middle class tax cuts that were agreed to hostage. i think if you take a step back
it to the floor. he likely will bring it to the floor. and we saw this with the democrats sometimes. nancy pelosi bringing war funding bills to the house floor during the bush administration. not because she loved the idea of continuing the wars in afghanistan and iraq but because she saw that was a priority that needed to move whether or not it was going to have a lot of democratic votes. >> amazing. you think of all those things in the senate. the farm bill had enough republican support over there. never brought up in the house. it's a tough thing to do for john boehner. john allen, thank you so much for joining us. looking forward to the book about hillary and concussion-dpat. it will be interesting. next, as a new senator gets swarn in today, the fight from john kerry is reading up. >>> topping the headlines on andrea mitchell reports, former president george h.w. bush has been moved to the intensive care unit of a houston hospital where he's been battling a cough since november. the 88-year-old was moved to the icu recently after a foout few setbacks including a persistent fever. doctors are
congress is the least productive congress since we started keeping track of this in 1947 and when nancy pelosi was speaker of the house, the 110th congress had roll call votes, over 1,000 roll call votes, and with speaker boehner, only 444 roll call votes leading to 219 pieces of legislation. should the american people feel as though you all are simply not doing your jobs? >> the answer to that question is yes, i think that the american people have a right to be skeptical of the work being done in washington. part of that is the political dynamic. i don't know if i would just count the number of votes. we are not commemorating sports teams and honoring, you know, naming the weeks and the days after which ef vegetable we choose for this week, and national tomato month. but that is something that we don't do in this congress so that the number of votes is going to be a lot less, but the productivity is going to be based on doing what is right for the american people, and doing big things and doing things that are going to help the country. i think that the american people are right to loo
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